General @ Monday October 31, 2005 11:43 am by WunderKraut
Update: I was reading on LGF a few minutes ago when I came across this post. It deals with selective muslim silence. Very interesting.
Fellow blogger and reader Dave J. from It Comes In Pints? took issue with something I posted about Iran.
In my post Now Do You Believe Me and in a follow up post Oh Now I Feel Better… I posted about Iran publicly stating their desire to see Israel wiped off the map. He agreed with my points but took issue with a quote that I included from one of my old essays:
They [Iran] hate Israel because, well they do not need a reason, they are Arabs, thus, they are born hating Israel. Can you imagine how cool the leader of Iran would be to the rest of the Arab world if he nuked Israel? Well, the memory of him would be cool, as he himself would be a crispy bit of charcoal after the counter strike by Israel.
He left this comment:
Er, while I agree with much of what you said here, Iranians are not Arabs. Farsi is an Indo-European language, closer to English than it is to Arabic.
You know what, he is right. I painted with too broad of a brush.
That got me thinking about who hates JOOS and who wants Israel gone. Follow me on a little exercise as we try to figure this out.
Name me an Arab country that actually likes Israel. If you say Egypt I will smack you. Yes they have a “peace” treaty that says that Israel has a right to exist. How nice. But all you have to do is read about their media portrayal of Jews and Israel and you will see that they still do not think much of Israel. Actually, would Egypt be considered an Arab country? Come on, find me an Arab country that supports Israel being a country. I do not think there are any.
Let’s move onto other countries. Iran is not an Arab country, but hates Israel. Pakistan is not an Arab country but is at least showing signs that they may be OK with Israel existing. Although it may be to help offset the Indian-Israeli friendship. But it is a LONG way away from being allies with Israel. Indonesia is not Arab yet they hate Israel. The Left in Europe and the U.S. are not Arab, but they hate Israel.
Apart from the Left in Europe and the U.S., there is a common thread that ties together all anti-Israel countries: They are all majority Muslim countries.
I can just hear the comments now…Not all Muslims hate Israel. Not all Muslims are anti-Semitic. Not all Muslims follow a radical and militant form of Islam….Blah, blah, blah. I have heard it all before. If all the above is true, then why does EVERY majority Muslim country hate Israel?
*crickets chirping*
Why?
The next round of comments will be about how evil Israel is and how I am painting with too broad of a brush. They will call me a racist.
But.
They will not be able to prove me wrong.
My question is this: Why do countries hate Israel so much? Why do all majority Muslim countries hate Israel? I am willing to say I am wrong in my theory, but you will have to provide me proof. I wonder what responses you will get from average U.S. citizens if you ask them about Israel. Then ask Muslim Americans about Israel….Something tells me that the two responses will be totally different.
Why can’t Muslims get over the fact that Israel exists as a country? Why is that so hard to deal with?
I am willing to be proven wrong. I know that there must be many, many, many good Muslims out there that support Israel’s right to exist. Aren’t there?
National Review Online has some great reading on this mindset.
This is also an interesting read concerning the mind tricks that one must go through to legitimize hating an entire country, but not the people, because that would be racist….
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“If all the above is true, then why does EVERY majority Muslim country hate Israel?”
I can think of ONE country a majority of whose population is at least nominally Muslim that does not hate Israel: Turkey. I wouldn’t say Tukey LOVES Israel, and there are certainly a sizeable number of Turks who hate Israel as much as many other Muslims do, but the Turkish government has been pretty consistently pro-Israel ever since 1948.
Perhaps that’s because most Turks hate Arabs more than they hate the Jews.
Good point Dave.
Turkey has always been an anomaly. Is it because of its proximity to Europe?
That’s part of it. Another part is probably Ataturk’s legacy of militant secularism which, while now not as strong as it used to be, is still a big part of the modern Turkish Republic’s national identity. Ataturk wanted religion to be purely private: Turks were to be Turks first, and Muslims (or Christians or Jews or whatever) only second if at all.
Yeah, I remember that from the great book The Closed Circle: An Interpretation of the Arabs by David Pryce-Jones. I must dust that book off and give it another read.
Well, let’s not forget the synagogue bombimgs in Constantinople a few years ago; the militant islamists are pretty good at expanding their reach and cowing the ‘moderates’.
Yes, that’s true, but I’d also point that there are actually ARE still synagogues in Turkey (I visited one in Istanbul), unlike almost anywhere in the Arab world.
The most Jews left in a majority-Arab country are probably in Morocco, where there MIGHT be something like 30,000. Algeria and Tunisia have comparatively more than other Arab countries as well. But keep in mind that those countries in North Africa, while majority-Arab and majority-Muslim, also have a large minority of non-Arabs: the Berbers, who while mostly nominally, have no particular fondness for their longtime Arab rulers. And until the 1960’s, those were also either colonies (Algeria) or protectorates of Europe.
“Mostly nominally Muslim,” I meant, re: the Berbers of North Africa.”
i can tell you why. because God the Creator has ordained it.
here are His prophecies concerning Israel:
2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
you see, israel is still the chosen people of God, and for His names sake, He will redeem them. the above prophecy is soon to happen.
after that the nations have taken israel, God will fight for them;
3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
so now you know why all nations (not just arab ones) are turning agaionst israel. these are the prophecies of God…every prophecy that He spoke of has either come true, or is even now coming true, and some will in the time of the end, which we are fast approaching. It is a BIG mistake to deny or reject God part in the affairs of man.